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With so much emphasis geared around performance, its obvious Infiniti didn't follow their typical blueprint when they engineered and developed the JX. I'm sure this was done on purpose and the JX was designed to be an all-purpose volume seller that appeals to most people in this market. But obviously, there are a few out there that would hope that Infiniti would go back to its performance roots.... self included!

I'm just curious if anyone has heard any rumors or rumblings about a sport variant of the JX in the works? Whether its the "S" badge or new motor/tranny all together (think M37/56). They seem to have such a thing with almost every other model they offer (G/M/FX...). To me this is the one thing that would put this SUV over the top!

If such a thing existed, i'd cut the check today, but I just can't seem to get past the lack of performance/fun to drive factor! No offense to those who feel this is adequate. I've taken 2 test drives already and my opinions have not changed... But everything else, I'm sold on!
 

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I don't think there will be a sport version of the JX. IT is not designed for that. Do you ever heard a sport version of the QX?
 

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More than likely they will come up with some limited run of a sportier variant...probably mostly cosmetic versus performance though. :rolleyes:
 

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Doubt it.... I think the reason that Infiniti went with the CVT is there will likely be a hybrid JX sometime in the near future. I do agree, after putting almost 4,000 miles on my JX thus far, that it is a boring drive. The biggest disappointment for me is the terrible acceleration from a stop. I've gotten myself into trouble a few times, pulling into traffic with the gas pedal floored, and the gear shifter set at 1 for max torque: The response of the CVT is very slow from a stop.
 

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The consensus on the Nissan sites is that the CVT maxes out around 400 ft-lbs of torque, so that doesn't leave much room for performance improvements on the JX without swapping out the transmission. That's a lot of cost for Infiniti unless they feel there's a market for it.

We knew going in there was a huge compromise in performance for increased fuel efficiency. We must be getting old...it's the first time we've accepted lower HP and higher MPG in a vehicle!
 

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I wish that Infiniti would have put the new CVT that is in the 2013 Altima. According to Nissan it's the most advanced CVT on the planet with better response and fuel economy.
 

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Don't think JX owners are concerned about the sportyness of the car. I personally don't see this happening. But if I'm wrong and there is a huge demand for a sport version it COULD happen.
 

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Increasing power will mess up the MPG benefits...I highly doubt they will, at least not now, since the JX MPG is best in its class for now.
 

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Sportier version is a provocative thought. But with a CVT? Here's what I have to report:

The driving of the JX35 is made sedate & slumber-like. Passengers such as my wife, kids & close friends really like it. My wife even commented that it feels much smoother than a Lincoln Town Car, and also feels like she's seated in the business class of a large Boeing 747. I, the driver, on the other hand, grimace within. But when the wife is happy, many happy things also follow. So I drive it like the best Lincoln town car can be, and keep comments to myself and to this blog. There's still a pleasure you get when your love ones feel happy at your indirect driving experience expense. :)

Drivers from other performance oriented Infiniti models would very much notice the CVT's slushbox feel. I admit I have to get used to the RPM flare we get from the CVT. At first, it is annoying with the sound & feel behaving like a troubled failing auto transmission. I feel stressed in the beginning. But it gets being used to. I just keep telling my mind the logic behind the CVT. Turning the dial to sport mode from standard fools you a bit. But don't be mistaken, it's a software program & the CVT is still there & has not disappeared. I don't like the ECO mode, the accelerator pedal just feel harder.

For practice purposes, I turn on the arcade mode in Sony playsation GT5, and take the Tesla Electric car for some laps. That is the most similar feel you'll ever have with the JX35 & any simulation.

The JX35 AWD is a very nice luxury CUV. The interior is stunning, design overall is superb. But it's like a large golf cart in driving. (Even the golf cart can kick more initial torque feel). There's a lot of "foot driving". My right foot has never been so confused in its life. But it's a new system, and I have gotten it to a tee after some runs. Think like the throttle of a boat.

Sure, you can engage the "manual mode". But it feels funny with "1" driving all the way to 45 mph, and "2" up to 60. Suddenly, it's now decided to be a motorcycle.

One advantage of the CVT is a "controversial accelaration". Sure, many in this forum feels the accelaration from full stop to be not thrilling at all. However, pass after 10-15 mph, just keep on that right pedal, you'll out-accelarate a lot of similar cars, vans & trucks. I swear this to be true. The acceleration line is so smooth, you almost don't know it. The absence of the shift shock tells you somehow you're slow. However, I implore you to look at the speedometer. At 4,500-5000 rpm for 6-7 seconds, you think you're engine is dying - but the result is that the pack from the stoplight is in your rear-view mirror. I tell you it's a paradoxical experience. I have never driven with one of my eyeballs glued to the speedometer like this. That is the only way I can know what this vehicle is doing. Cues, that we are so used & taken for granted to, have been changed.

Call me old school... I have somehow already lamented & embraced the eventual death of the manual clutch-driven transmission in the near future with paddle shifting & dual clutch set-up. The next evolution to stab this would be the eventual proliferation of CVT. If you can't beat them, join them. Learn them now before it's too late! Racing F1 cars with CVT. Now that's something I need to see before I get to be an old grandpa.

I do owe my JX35 some gratitude. It made me drive/ride more solo time with my G37 & Yamaha FZ6 as I now cherish their drivetrain transmission. With the JX35, I just imagine I am piloting an airplane. Now the only missing thing is a Breitling on my left wrist.
 

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^Lol...nice write up.
 

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Its a family hauler, i get that, but when you got the competition namely Acura MDX outgoing model producing 300HP which offers maybe 2 miles less per gallon, is it really worth it? To some maybe, but thats the part i struggle with. i know i know, im beating a dead horse here. Eagerly awaiting what Acura has in store... but looks like i may be waiting a while. Last i checked next gen wont hit showrooms till fall 2013 as a 2014 model. I just hope someone at Infiniti reads these forums and realizes that there is a legitimate demand for JX56! haha ;-)
 

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I think for Infiniti to make a Sport Version of the JX, they should use the 5.6 liter V8 from the M/QX, and ADD a hybrid motor to it. How about 530-550 HP and 400 torque?!? Then offer a 7 speed automatic with paddle shifting or a full manual and sport skirts all around the exterior. $75-85K? The target buyer would be completely different than the current family/women that Infiniti is going after with the current JX. It would be such low sales that they would never do it...but it's nice to dream.
 

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^^^ lol, variety is the spice of life! Why can't we have both? BMW does it with the X5M, Merc does it with their AMG line... and from what i just recently read, even Ford is doing it with their explorer line. Sure it may be a low volume seller, but whats the harm in having variants that appeal to all markets? Who knows, it might happen. The JX is still in its infancy stages... anyhow, back to dreaming!
 

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I will say driving in Chicago traffic today.... I really felt the low torque and slow response of the CVT. There were times when I wanted to make a break to a different lane, but couldn't because I knew the JX wouldn't get up to speed quick enough.
 

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Somewhere out there in Godzilla Land, is a JX35 AWD outfitted with twin turbo like GTR, and badged with Nismo high end parts. Gone is the CVT and is replaced by dual-clutch 7 speed. Drivetrain is rear-wheel drive biased ETS-PRO.

Somebody outfitted a Nissan Juke with the powertrain of a GTR in the Motor Trend Jan 24, 2012 issue. It called the Juke-R.

JX35-R may be a prototype we are all dreaming about.

But then, your wife & kids who this was built according to will start gnashing their teeth and gnarl at your dream conversion.
 
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