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My friend has a flex, and it's a plastic wonder inside.... EVERYTHING is plastic, including the wood detail. Additionally, the Ford computer system sucks.... I also thought it rode quite rough.
 

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I loved Fords, but always had transmission issues with relatively low milage. Years ago when I worked part time for a major rental car company, I got my taste of Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc. the only cars we had that were reliable were the Toyotas, Nissans, Suburus, Volvos...after working for a large city that has a sizable fleet and seeing the same quality issues with the American leading brands, I felt that my experience with Nissan products was exceptional. I'm hopeful we will have the same good luck with our JX. It is nice that the car was built by American workers. Oh, by the way, the Flex should not be classified as a luxury car. It is nice, but no thanks.
 

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long story short I think the japanese brands can be driven to high mileages with reliability and minimum hassle. i'm not willing to put similar trust in a ford. (or bailed out gm or benz/fiat/chrysler)
I concur that the Japanese brands seem to last longer with fewer issues. We had 2 300Zs that had 300K miles on them. We never had a major problem with our Nissans. Co-workers with Toyotas and Suburus also had high millage and few problems.

I spent a lot of time at the former Toyota/GM plant in Fremont and saw how they built cars. Pretty incredible. I know the American car manufactures are doing better these days, but I think I'll stick with a winner. Nissan/Infiniti don't let me down.
 

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Went to the build site and optioned it up, similar to my JX. Listed price is $52k, about 3k below my MSRP. The additional $3k gets you:
- Name - sorry all you Ford lovers but Infiniti is simply a better name
- reliably- similar to a previous comment, Nissan/Infiniti has better reliability.
- Quality - interior materials are much better quality with soft touch and much less hard plastic surfaces.
- Techno stiff - Cameras everywhere, auto stop, auto backup stop, etc.
- dealer loaners - free loaners.

I would have also included dealer employees but my horrible experience purchasing the JX has left a bitter taste I'm unlikely to forget. Sketchy snake-oil sales practices seem acceptable at Infiniti.

I'm sure the Ford pulls away faster and the non-cvt tranny will make a few folks happier. I'm also sure you can negotiate a deal closer to invoice.

Personally, at this dollar range the few grand isn't worth the additional items listed above.
 

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^Thats not really that surprising...what is surprising is how vehicle types are compared when it's obvious the concept of 'apples to apples' is not being used.
 

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what is surprising is how vehicle types are compared when it's obvious the concept of 'apples to apples' is not being used.
When looking for new cars, people don't start out by limiting themselves to "vehicle types"/luxury vs non-luxury etc. If I am in the market for a 7 seater cross over, then I would consider all of them as there aren't that many options to start with.
 

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When looking for new cars, people don't start out by limiting themselves to "vehicle types"/luxury vs non-luxury etc. If I am in the market for a 7 seater cross over, then I would consider all of them as there aren't that many options to start with.
I don't think people cross shop Ford and Infiniti, or Hyundai with Infiniti.

I limited myself it the Acura MDX, Used Range Rover, Used Mercedes GL, Mercedes ML, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Audi Q7. Three are 5 seaters and one is non lux (loyalty issues).
 

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I don't think people cross shop Ford and Infiniti, or Hyundai with Infiniti.

I limited myself it the Acura MDX, Used Range Rover, Used Mercedes GL, Mercedes ML, Jeep Grand Cherokee, and Audi Q7. Two are 5 seaters and one is non lux (loyalty issues).
I agree, Ford never crossed my mind when I was shopping around, my list was the Acura MDX, Lexus GX470 and the Audi Q7. When it came decision time, the JX was the best value.....
 

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Seriously, I compared Flex, Explorer, and Durango. I was looking for a 7 pax crossover that has been redesigned in the past couple years. These were my final 3 choices until wife saw a JX commercial( Was not aware of the JX). Test drove and bought a week later. No comparison ,price within 10 percent of any of three above, JX wins in technology , Luxury nameplate, Interior quality, 4 yr warranty vs 3 yr, reliability should be better, resale value, 2013 model (fords 2013 durango 2012) fyi was leaning the durango citadel before JX. After a month and 2500 miles definitely made the right choice dollar for dollar cant beat the JX
 
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